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    Quote Originally Posted by DWDawg View Post
    Here ya go Switcher. Quality and longevity unknown
    Appears to be a sweet deal, I think I may pick up one or two. Any colors other than pink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyRedShirt View Post
    Cigarette:
    1) Open pack
    2) place cigarette in mouth
    3) light cigarette
    4) enjoy
    Your comparison isn't quite apples to apples. Perhaps if you compared rolling your own cigarettes to the RDA.

    1. Get your can of tobacco, roller, and tubes.
    2. Put the right amount of tobacco in the roller.
    3. Fight with the paper tube to get it onto the roller.
    4. Click clack.
    5. Tap that crap down so it doesn't fall out.

    This is just as much of a process as dealing with an ego and all preparation. Remember you need to repeat that for every single cigarette.

    6. Search your pockets/purse for your lighter.
    7. Get it back from the lighter thief.
    8. Try to light your cig.
    9. Spin around and around trying to block the wind/fan huddled up like it's a crack pipe.
    10. Search for an ashtray, beer bottle, or pop can before the ashes fall off.
    11. Put out the tiny fire that started when the cherry falls off.
    12. Re-light your cigarette to relieve the stress from burning a hole in your new shirt.
    13. Either flick the butt or find somewhere to dispose of it safely.

    Why dripping works for me is that it is a lot closer to the smoking routine. Leaving the house is Mod/Juice/Wallet/Keys which was formerly Lighter/Smokes/Wallet/Keys in my self pat down. The actual act of adding a few drops to the RDA is not much different than a lot of the minor ticks you see people with that smoke. Tap tap tap every time they take a cig from their pack. The limited duration with only so many draws before you're out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaytheredneck1 View Post
    When people ask me before they start, I am new enough to remember what pisses me off about when I started. So no, I will never recommend a $50 crap evod kit(because that's what shops sell them for on average), when for the price of an MVP, you get a kit anyway. You buy an MVP doesn't matter what version, and innokin gives you a 2600mah vv/vw mod, a charger, and a clearo. Why buy a non-passthrough evod with a proprietary charger, much smaller battery etc for close enough to the same price? I would never suggest that to someone.
    Not everyone can afford and take the investment in a higher grade device then the starter kits. They just want to try something different thus thats why many shops recommend the cheaper proprietary simple devices. Push button and go. For a small all around device the I-Sticks are great with little more investment than the starter but more buttons does not mean they take it on easier. Personal preference to look and style will always take the case. Anyways Happy Vaping


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    What I'm talking about though, is that B&M stores, where most people GET their first experience, charge so much for the ego kits, that people might aswell jump into the MVP or eleaf. My first kit, was $50, know what I got? a single Kangertech 650mah vv ego, an aspire ets glass(bdc), a cheapo generic proprietary charger, and a case that I talked the guy into throwing into the deal, he wasn't offering to give it up on his own. I still had to buy juice($20). The cheapo proprietary charger lasted a week, so tack on another $7 for an aspire branded charger. I needed an extra ego battery to make it through the work day, so tack on another $20 for an aspire cf 650. Tack on the inconvenience of not having passthrough. Where do you get replacement chargers for MVPs and iSticks?.... The bloody dollar store. Where do you get a charger for a proprietary ego? a severely marked up B&M if you need it right away, and if you don't want to light up a stinky, you need it right away.
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    I own three (lost two to the wife though) Isticks 20W and I do consider them a starter kit. Top it off with a glass tank and you are good to go. No muss, no fuss. Plug into wall or car if needs a charge and keep on truckin. all for well under $100. No real need for a double system till after one knows vaping is for them. I started an eGo-C upgrade kit and two bottles of juice cost me $160. Had no mentor or did I even know of anyone who vaped.
    We are all cloud chasers. Otherwise we would all be chewing gum or putting on patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelie View Post
    I own three (lost two to the wife though) Isticks 20W and I do consider them a starter kit. Top it off with a glass tank and you are good to go. No muss, no fuss. Plug into wall or car if needs a charge and keep on truckin. all for well under $100. No real need for a double system till after one knows vaping is for them. I started an eGo-C upgrade kit and two bottles of juice cost me $160. Had no mentor or did I even know of anyone who vaped.
    These days things are so much cheaper- i paid about 120 for my ego-c juices and batteries. And Jay I here yah..


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    Yeah, I paid the same amount for my cool fire 2(with iclear 30s) and a pair of purple efests and a 30ml juice, as what I paid for my ego kit, mind you the batteries do require a standalone charger. And I only started at the end of december so it wasn't that long ago. Ego kits are dirt cheap online but new quitters aren't ordering from china and waiting a month or 2, they're going into stores because their friend gave them the idea to try it.

    I did advance quickly though, I'm already dripping with a mech @0.5ohm. But I will stand by my recommendation that new quitters start with a small regulated box mod like the istick or mvp, because they are super easy, come with everything, close enough to the same price as an ego kit, and the power range allows them to start low and have room to power up and ohm down a bit when they're ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaytheredneck1 View Post
    But I will stand by my recommendation that new quitters start with a small regulated box mod like the istick or mvp, because they are super easy, come with everything, close enough to the same price as an ego kit, and the power range allows them to start low and have room to power up and ohm down a bit when they're ready.
    You still don't (and never will with a box mod) check off the one box that most smokers are looking for in their first device: feels like a cigarette (or at worst a cigarillo) in the hand. The friends I have already converted look at my MVP and ask if they can get hardware with the same features but a more eGo-style form factor. THAT is the industry's bread and butter. You gotta be pretty committed to vaping to say "f*** the form factor, I want the features!"

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    Personally, I started on a v2-sized ecig. This was partly because I started with a small online supplier out of Ontario, because they were the first Canadian supplier I could find with nicotine in their liquid. There was something going on with Health Canada at the time, and the big sites all had opening pages for any Canadian IP that stated they could not ship nicotine into Canada. All the Canadian sites I saw had only 0nic. Anyway, the cigalike didn't do it for me, partly because I was using it incorrectly. I was still very interested though, so a few months later, I got back in the mode of researching things.

    Since then, I've bought a few different pieces of equipment, getting better results as I went and started paying attention to variable voltage and wattage. This past Friday, I had my last cigarette waiting for the morning bus. After work, I went to a local vape shop and bought an Istick 30w to try. Some of what I bought before will now likely be sold off, except for a device or two for backup . I now get real flavor from my juice, and I LOVE it! I'm ready to try some non-tobacco flavors now! And with a good sub-ohm coil, I find I vape much like I smoked. A quick puff gives me a mouthful of vapor and the flavour is AMAZING! Mind you, until recently, you've had to build to go sub-ohm. But even the Istick 20w would have given me a good flavourful vape. I smoked the last cigarette in my pack last night, just to get the pack out of my pocket. This little tiny device has tripled my satisfaction level with vaping!

 

 
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