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    Quote Originally Posted by 18Wheels View Post
    Speaking of mindset..... with the devices available today, how many of you out there still think its necessary to sub ohm? It seems that that's all I here nowadays. People see me vaping my rta's and say Wow that's a ton of vapor, is that a sub tank? No it isn't.They seem shocked when I say subtanks are for beginners. Am I the only one who thinks this way?
    I don't think you need to, some people prefer it. My daughter only uses a mech and sub ohms. She knows enough to do it as safely as possible and that's her happy vape place. That's what makes her feel satisfied with a vape. I use 1.+ on my rda's. I like a really warm vape. Warm vape and lots of vapor is what keeps me from sticking a smoke in my mouth. I like the kanger sub tanks only because at .5 pre made coils @ 19-20w ( haven't tried building it yet ) it's warm like I like it but not so hot I loose flavour and it's the only tank/coil that I can have that warm a vape on without burning it.

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    Building coils isn't as easy as it once was for me, so I do like the pre made ones. I agree with everyone though, a mech and .whatnot coils is not a good beginner choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by projectjudi View Post
    I did a second one and that didn't seem as good as the first one I built. I still have one of the ones you rebuilt just for reference. Am going to try and save a few of my single coils for the protank and see if I build a few at a time I will get in the groove better and not have to watch and pause and rewind ect UTube. Looking forward to this as it's going to save a lot of $ and the flavor is way better. I have some old style dual coils put aside and hope to advance to that as well
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    To be real honest I don't really understand what sub ohming is. I think whatever makes you not smoke is great. To me cloud chasing is more of a hobby thing...don't think that it would be more effective at keeping me from smoking. I would like to try dripping just to say I have and to see if it's as great as everyone says. I do have all the stuff (tools and other stuff I won a while back including a tobh) I need to make bigger coils for dripper or whatever but am scared of using a blow torch...I will get there but for now I am happy with where I am.

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    Your coils don't have to be bigger just use a different gauge wire and add some extra wraps. There's no need for a blowtorch either. You can use a lighter to heat your wire. I keep a butane lighter in my travel kit for that purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK47 View Post
    Your coils don't have to be bigger just use a different gauge wire and add some extra wraps. There's no need for a blowtorch either. You can use a lighter to heat your wire. I keep a butane lighter in my travel kit for that purpose.


    I just temper them right on the deck of the atty its on by dry burning it before adding wick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by projectjudi View Post
    To be real honest I don't really understand what sub ohming is. I think whatever makes you not smoke is great. To me cloud chasing is more of a hobby thing...don't think that it would be more effective at keeping me from smoking. I would like to try dripping just to say I have and to see if it's as great as everyone says. I do have all the stuff (tools and other stuff I won a while back including a tobh) I need to make bigger coils for dripper or whatever but am scared of using a blow torch...I will get there but for now I am happy with where I am.


    A lot of people don't, a couple of days ago a vaper I know brought me his Istick and subtank because it would't fire. Istick limit is 1.1ohm, the coil on his tank was .5 but that didn't stop the b&m from selling it to him or telling him to us the 1.2 ohm coils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puff View Post
    I don't think you need to, some people prefer it. My daughter only uses a mech and sub ohms. She knows enough to do it as safely as possible and that's her happy vape place. That's what makes her feel satisfied with a vape. I use 1.+ on my rda's. I like a really warm vape. Warm vape and lots of vapor is what keeps me from sticking a smoke in my mouth. I like the kanger sub tanks only because at .5 pre made coils @ 19-20w ( haven't tried building it yet ) it's warm like I like it but not so hot I loose flavour and it's the only tank/coil that I can have that warm a vape on without burning it.

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    Building coils isn't as easy as it once was for me, so I do like the pre made ones. I agree with everyone though, a mech and .whatnot coils is not a good beginner choice
    A mech would be a good reason to do sub ohm builds because its the only way to get more heat from an unregulated mod. As long as one knows ohms law and battery saftey, etc. Nowadays, with mods going from 15-260 watts It's no longer necessary to sub ohm.

    AS for building coils, practice makes perfect, If you were a little closer I would show you how to do it. most people I have taught were making great coils within an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 18Wheels View Post
    A mech would be a good reason to do sub ohm builds because its the only way to get more heat from an unregulated mod. As long as one knows ohms law and battery saftey, etc. Nowadays, with mods going from 15-260 watts It's no longer necessary to sub ohm.

    AS for building coils, practice makes perfect, If you were a little closer I would show you how to do it. most people I have taught were making great coils within an hour.
    I really appreciate the offer You can always learn something from someone else. I can build my own coils, I started a year ( I think ) and so ago. I was never a fancy coil builder, just a utilitarian type. Single coil 1.something I have osteoarthritis, things went mad about a year ago and it's progressed way faster than is usual, they aren't sure why. It started in my hip but is affecting other things now and my hands are getting stiffer and more unwieldy so it's harder for me to do it. I still make them because I love the taste/etc in rda's. I just don't build them as much as I used to and ask my daughter to make me some when she comes over :| She's much faster at it then I.

    Re: the pre made kanger coils - I'm odd in that when I find something I like, I don't try anything else, I know the 1.something coils should be the same as the .5 - just using different votage/wattage but (even though it's not logical) I stick to the .5 because I know I like them in the tank. I haven't tried the higher resistance.
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    @Puff Looking into the Kuro style coilers. You can find them extremely cheap on slowtech. They'll make short work of building coils without issue on your hands. Rip Trippers has a review of one.

    Regarding the reasons to sub-ohm, a lot of people are forgetting that to reach the high wattages even on box mods you need to drop the resistance of your coils. So if your box is limited in the output voltage it does (which they all are dependant upon the chips capabilities) then there is some restrictions.

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