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    BC following ON, NS, MB

    B.C. to ban e-cigarette sales to young people | Toronto Star

    By: The Canadian Press Published on Thu Mar 05 2015

    VICTORIA — B.C.’s health minister is regulating electronic cigarettes with new legislation that will ban sales to young people and prohibit their use in indoor public spaces and workplaces.

    Health Minister Terry Lake says the legislation will also ban e-cigarette smoking on school grounds and at health authority properties.

    Lake says the legislation is designed to limit children’s exposure to e-cigarette vapour and prevent e-cigarettes from making smoking appear normal.

    E-cigarettes are battery-operated devices that do not contain tobacco but can be used to heat a liquid nicotine solution, creating a vapour that users inhale.

    Ontario, Nova Scotia and Manitoba have laws and regulations restricting e-cigarette use and sales and Alberta says it is examining e-cigarette legislation.

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    That's much much more reasonable than ontario's "no display, no promotion, not indoors at all" approach.... You can't vape indoors in public spaces? Easy workaroung -- vape shops are member-only.... Zero fee, just become a member by signing in at the door

    I agree it shouldn't be used in schools, hospitals, or sold to minors.

    I think it should be up to the employer if staff can vape at work.

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    There's an article in Vancouver sun; I still can't post links due to computer illiteracy, that states "displays must be *blocked* in vape shops.

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    not sure if making vape shops members only will be able to by-pass the no vaping indoors clause.

    I remember when they banned smoking in bar/ restaurants a few places here tried that members only thing and they got slapped down.

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    Need to read the actual legislation.

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    Bill 14 – 2015: Tobacco Control Amendment Act, 2015

    They are lumping them in with tobacco legislation... soooo

    no indoor use.
    no workplace use.

    Vape shops are indoors and work places...

    Display rules same as cigarettes... which means no display.

    Promotion rules same as cigarettes... so no promotion....



    Yup. BC vapers should start kicking up a fuss right now.

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    I believe BC has exemptions for stores that do not allow access to minors. I don't see it mentioned in the Tobacco control Act, but I came accross this:

    "My retail operation is almost exclusively tobacco products catering to adult customers. How do I comply with the new tobacco laws?
    Tobacco retailers have three options:
    •allow minors to enter the store, in which case they will no longer be able to have in open sight of or handle any cigarettes or other forms of tobacco or tobacco products - either inside or from outside of the establishment;
    •allow minors to enter the store generally, but exclude them from areas where tobacco is sold. In that case, they can display tobacco products only in that area provided that the tobacco products cannot be viewed or accessed by minors from anywhere inside the establishment, or by a person from outside (e.g. a window or open door);
    •do not allow minors to enter the store at all, in which case they can display tobacco products provided a person cannot view them from outside the establishment."

    source: Resources for Retailers: About Tobacco Sales, Display and Promotion ? Tobacco Control Program
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    So this has gone through the first reading.

    Now is the time to act.

    If you are in BC: a vaper, the friend or family member of a vaper, a concerned citizen, a doctor or a nurse or medical professional - write you MP IMMEDIATELY. Don't delay. Do it today. Go over the legislation and address every area you have a concern on. State why. You're MP can oppose this bill based on your words.

    If you are a vendor, write your MP with information, let him/her know that you weren't consulted and that no industry stakeholder was consulted and that you object to the bill as it's written. State why. Go over parts - any parts - that you believe are wrong and why.

    CC your response to: Hon. Terry Lake, Minister of Health.

    He should receive a copy of every single letter that goes to every single MP on this matter.

    The faster you do this - the more impact it will have.

    Wait a few weeks and the bill could fly through the legislature, with no input.

    It's far easier to object to a bill before it's law than to try and reverse an existing law.


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    This will be a great thread to share continued information regarding BC and how to fight it. Not sure if you have more points you can elaborate on @KanadianKat . There will likely be alot more interviews so getting our facts correct from the start will help everyone involved.
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    I'll do my best to elaborate - but this would be better handled as a community-wide project. Feel free to add ideas - these are my initial ones.

    IF YOU LIVE IN BC - Find your MLA (Member of Legislative Assembly) here by putting in your postal code: www.leg.bc.ca/mla/3-1-1.htm

    Here are some basic suggestions to write about:
    - Ask why ecigs (which are personal vaporizers and do not contain or use tobaccco or produce smoke) are being given tobacco restrictions.

    - Emphasize that ecigs have been subjected to independent tests by some of the worlds top medical doctors and scientists - who agree they do not pose any public health concerns to bystanders and no noticeable negative health effects on users.

    - mention that the tobacco act was put in place to protect the public from a product that, when used as directed, causes death and disease to both users and bystanders. Tobacco cigarettes are a dangerous product noted, world wide, as one of the leading causes of preventable health issues and responsible for over 1 million deaths globally each year.

    - emphasize that ecigs are a successful way for smokers to give up tobacco. Insert a brief of your story (or if you don't vape, a story of someone you know who does).

    - ask for a specific action (ie: that the MLA address this issue prior to the 2nd reading, that the MLA represent your voice in the Legislature, that the MLA take the initiative of contacting medical organizations and learning more about this unique technology, that ecigs be recognized as a harm reduction technology for tobacco users, etc).

    Keep this to a maximum of 4 paragraphs. No one is going to read a really long letter that rabbits on - particularly if they are receiving a number of letters.

    If you are sending a written letter by mail, print out a copy of the letter by medical scientists to the WHO from last year, and enclose it. A copy is here: http://nicotinepolicy.net/documents/...rgaretChan.pdf

    If you are writing an email, include the link above as well as a link to the following:

    1. Medical professionals supporting electronic cigarettes: M.O.V.E: https://sciencecig.wordpress.com/move/

    2. Canada's Ecig trade association, proposed regulations for the Canadian Industry (forwarded to House of Commons Committee on Health): ECTA Research and Action Canada: https://www.ectaofcanada.com

    3. Canada's Consumer Action group on ecigs: THRA: https://www.thra.ca


    AND IF YOU ARE A VENDOR - most of what is above, along with a complaint that no stakeholder in the industry was even informed about this bill, much less consulted. Mention that it is NEVER appropriate to regulate a product in the same category as an entirely opposite product, particularly when the two have no common ground, no common ingredients and no common useage parameters or are even used in the same way.


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