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    U of T Prof - study of studies

    Users take up tobacco again within six months ...


    E cigarettes DON'T help smokers quit in the long-term | Daily Mail Online


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    It never ends does it? I've never seen anything so abused in the media while so many truths about it are completely ignored. Then again, we've never had something that messes with the goverments/Big Pharma and Big tobacco's profits either. It makes me so angry and frustrated. It's like trying to talk against the roar of a hurricane

    Apart from that gloomy outlook, I do think this is just the beginning of a process. Vaping is not going away. They may try to shove it down, they may succeed to some degree, but it's here to stay and I believe eventually, if we don't give up, we'll make headway.

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    All part of the tobacco propaganda machine in action. Wonder how much they paid for that.

    I say we must be doing something right if those who pay for crap like that to be published feel that e-cigarettes are a big enough threat they have to fight them with 1/2 truths.

    What does that article say... E-cigarettes have a great rate of success for 3-6 months... Well if you want to quit smoking what more can you ask for? If after 3-6 months of NOT SMOKING you choose to go back to cigarettes you simply we not ready or want to quit. Not really thr fault of the product..

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    That's an article from a site called "live science". It's not a medical journal. It's not really a study. I could do a study and have it published on live science.

    Medical journals require a specific framework and methodology that can be reviewed and criticized by other equal scientists.

    Our good friend Dr Stanton Glanz (PhD Applied Mechanics) published his last study in a similar "pop science" website. They are great places for propaganda and recognized as such.


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    Well, it's not a study. It's a meta-analysis using 4 existing studies for the efficacy and an additional 18 for the safety:

    Quote Originally Posted by EurekaAlert
    Results: Of 4569 abstracts identified, 297 articles underwent full-text review. For efficacy, 4 studies (2 randomized trials, 2 uncontrolled before-and-after studies) met inclusion criteria. For safety, 22 articles met inclusion criteria.
    Evidence that electronic cigarettes are effective for smoking cessation long-term is lacking | EurekAlert! Science News

    Considering the claims made, I wonder who paid for the analysis.

 

 

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