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    Quote Originally Posted by BXfan View Post
    Why does the manufacturer sell kits with ICR batteries? I bought a Sigelei Zmax with two Sigelei brand ICR batteries. Their own brand - yes - i guess i answered my own question, but what about safety? Why sell non-safe chemistry? This was a sealed, branded kit.
    Agree with @BXfan though I can well imagine that it has little to with safety for Sigelei, it does have a lot to do with finance, ICR batteries are cheaper to manufacture/produce/buy than IMR batteries??? That being said most of those sealed/branded kits do have an electronic protection circuit in them so guess they feel they don't need the additional protection of "Chemically safe batteries", when a manufacturer is selling thousands of kits the few pennies more makes a huge difference in their bottom line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Surely, you're not accusing anyone on this forum of being deliberately dishonest, hmmmmmm?
    No, I won't say I can call it deliberate. EV_R is just a game player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notfitforpublic View Post
    I'm full of shit like 90% of the time...


    Geez @Notfitforpublic, that must get pretty smelly

    edited: sorry @Brian that wasn't intended as a "personal dig" as I don't know @Notfitforpublic from Adam, but it was a good joke even if it was off topic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudferret View Post
    No, I won't say I can call it deliberate. EV_R is just a game player.

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    We don't know that
    He could also just have conviction
    Regardless, I don't care who is making a point on whatever.....
    Keep the comments on topic and away from personal digs please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    We don't know that
    He could also just have conviction
    Regardless, I don't care who is making a point on whatever.....
    Keep the comments on topic and away from personal digs please
    Done.

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    I'm not even sure why i bother coming on this forum anymore. Any real useful posts and information get all fucked up beyond repair.

    The fact that a mod had to stick their neck out to get this thread left open lends credence to that fact. I have a stellar idea, how bout we go back through the whole post and every post that has nothing to do with cloned aw batteries gets deleted. Otherwise there's no stopping this derailment. You'll either have to ban half the forum or Rob to make it stop. It'll probably be half the forum as perish forbid a vendor gets a slap on the wrist.

    I really wish there was some way i could get my money back that i donate to the forum to be verified or whatever it is because this place is a fucking joke these days. There's so many knowledgeable and experienced vapors on here that are slowly just not posting anymore due to the fact that every post that has anything to do with batteries or mods automatically gets turned into the "mech mods will blow up" show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    I'm not even sure why i bother coming on this forum anymore. Any real useful posts and information get all fucked up beyond repair.

    The fact that a mod had to stick their neck out to get this thread left open lends credence to that fact. I have a stellar idea, how bout we go back through the whole post and every post that has nothing to do with cloned aw batteries gets deleted. Otherwise there's no stopping this derailment. You'll either have to ban half the forum or Rob to make it stop. It'll probably be half the forum as perish forbid a vendor gets a slap on the wrist.

    I really wish there was some way i could get my money back that i donate to the forum to be verified or whatever it is because this place is a fucking joke these days. There's so many knowledgeable and experienced vapors on here that are slowly just not posting anymore due to the fact that every post that has anything to do with batteries or mods automatically gets turned into the "mech mods will blow up" show.
    @randomname Sad but true, there is some useful and valuable information in some of the posts minus all of the offensive nonsense, good idea to remove all of the crap and then closing the thread. As for the "slap on the wrist" do the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many in this case? Sorry, but I don't agree with you about taking back the money to support the forum, notwithstanding this debacle there is a LOT of other valuable info on the forum which makes it worth supporting financially and by continuing to post that info and seeing the responses to it. I'd hate to see it fall by the wayside because of one individual or because the veterans on here no longer see the value in posting due to one individual's repeatedly stubborn stance... I'm certainly not trying to goad anyone into acting on impulse but something does need to be done before more posters start to think like randomname IMHO. Moderators, any responses, ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    I'm not even sure why i bother coming on this forum anymore. Any real useful posts and information get all fucked up beyond repair.

    The fact that a mod had to stick their neck out to get this thread left open lends credence to that fact. I have a stellar idea, how bout we go back through the whole post and every post that has nothing to do with cloned aw batteries gets deleted. Otherwise there's no stopping this derailment. You'll either have to ban half the forum or Rob to make it stop. It'll probably be half the forum as perish forbid a vendor gets a slap on the wrist.



    I really wish there was some way i could get my money back that i donate to the forum to be verified or whatever it is because this place is a fucking joke these days. There's so many knowledgeable and experienced vapors on here that are slowly just not posting anymore due to the fact that every post that has anything to do with batteries or mods automatically gets turned into the "mech mods will blow up" show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_in_CH View Post
    @randomname Sad but true, there is some useful and valuable information in some of the posts minus all of the offensive nonsense, good idea to remove all of the crap and then closing the thread. As for the "slap on the wrist" do the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many in this case? Sorry, but I don't agree with you about taking back the money to support the forum, notwithstanding this debacle there is a LOT of other valuable info on the forum which makes it worth supporting financially and by continuing to post that info and seeing the responses to it. I'd hate to see it fall by the wayside because of one individual or because the veterans on here no longer see the value in posting due to one individual's repeatedly stubborn stance... I'm certainly not trying to goad anyone into acting on impulse but something does need to be done before more posters start to think like randomname IMHO. Moderators, any responses, ideas?
    This has been a troublesome thread from the onset
    Mindfield did the easy thing. He closed it down
    Me being the eternal optimist said no......
    People can become more than they are
    I still believe that, albeit, I now have less tolerance for some behavior
    I have always had a healthy respect for open discourse
    I have seen over the years of modding not only on this board but others as well
    There will always be people that have positions that are not popular
    As a community, our strength is allowing the unpopular to post
    If not, then things really get bad
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    Personally, and this is just me- I don't like to see threads locked for a few reasons that @Brian touched on.
    We are ALL supposed to be adults here, and as people we aren't all going to have the same opinions. Or even the right facts. But if you stifle conversation, even when it gets a bit heated- you are stifling expression and freedom. While I personally don't agree with much of what @Evapers_Rob says- I do defend his right to say it. Maybe in a nicer way...but that's not his way.
    Don't call people liars or swear at them--but there are often pearls of wisdom in his posts if you care to mine thru the not so great stuff. I would miss him (sort of like a toothache, lol)- if he wasn't here, because he does have intelligence on his side. Great people skills- not so much, but maybe he's a prince in real life.
    (No, I have not been paid for this post...!)
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