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    It's a plague, it's everywhere, kids are using e-cigs to get high! NOT!

    Came across this article on CTV news

    Its prevalent, its everywhere. Kids are jumping on this pretty quickly, Sgt. Kelly Rosnau of the Edmonton Police Service told reporters Thursday at a news conference.

    Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/student...#ixzz31LRojrXN

    Apparently kids are getting high smoking pot oil in "e-cigs", hmmm didn't know an e-cig coil could burn hot enough to burn pot oil nor that it is liquid enough to wick or drip it? I think they're talking about herbal vapourizers and once again mislabeling e-cigs as the device. Also, god forbid we should ban pot because that's not the problem, it's those nasty e-cigs that are causing kids to smoke pot oil isn't it...

    The school board and the cops are so freaking stupid, they really think banning the use of e-cigs on school grounds is going to stop kids from smoking pot??? I have some news for them, kids are going to smoke dope if they have to light the shit on fire with 2 rocks and breath in the fumes from that, let's face it, device or no device, kids are going to find a way to smoke dope. Besides which no one ever died from or overdosed on pot, you just fall asleep, pig out on munchies or laugh yourself silly!

    Geezus, does this crap never end???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_in_CH View Post
    Came across this article on CTV news

    “It’s prevalent, it’s everywhere. Kids are jumping on this pretty quickly,” Sgt. Kelly Rosnau of the Edmonton Police Service told reporters Thursday at a news conference.

    Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/student...#ixzz31LRojrXN

    Apparently kids are getting high smoking pot oil in "e-cigs", hmmm didn't know an e-cig coil could burn hot enough to burn pot oil nor that it is liquid enough to wick or drip it? I think they're talking about herbal vapourizers and once again mislabeling e-cigs as the device. Also, god forbid we should ban pot because that's not the problem, it's those nasty e-cigs that are causing kids to smoke pot oil isn't it...

    The school board and the cops are so freaking stupid, they really think banning the use of e-cigs on school grounds is going to stop kids from smoking pot??? I have some news for them, kids are going to smoke dope if they have to light the shit on fire with 2 rocks and breath in the fumes from that, let's face it, device or no device, kids are going to find a way to smoke dope. Besides which no one ever died from or overdosed on pot, you just fall asleep, pig out on munchies or laugh yourself silly!

    Geezus, does this crap never end???
    I see this as a good thing actually, because it means their reaaaally trying every possible angle they can to make ecigs look bad, and if this is all they have left in their arsenal..

    you just can't argue with the science behind ecigs (all positive and favourable for us, of course), so stuff like this will get shot down pretty quickly thanks to the power of the people! the internet and vapin' people that is

    well done, thanks everybody
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    It's a plague, it's everywhere, kids are using e-cigs to get high! NOT!

    Well I guess they aren't using them for nicotine then. So I guess the next headline will be "e-cigs-the gateway to doing crack. ".

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    E-cigs are the handbasket that mother told me I was going to hell in...
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    then they should stop selling papers and cards because, oh no, kids are using them to roll joints to smoke weed and get high! BAN PAPERS. wait how bout those kids smoking out of an apple BAN APPLES. wait, lighters make weed burn, BAN LIGHTERS.

    this logic applies to everything. only reason they target e-cigs is because its such a hot topic at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyezye View Post
    then they should stop selling papers and cards because, oh no, kids are using them to roll joints to smoke weed and get high! BAN PAPERS. wait how bout those kids smoking out of an apple BAN APPLES. wait, lighters make weed burn, BAN LIGHTERS.

    this logic applies to everything. only reason they target e-cigs is because its such a hot topic at the moment.
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    The thing that really gets me is the police sergeant (Sergeant Stedenko?) who's saying it's "everywhere"... Long term statistics tell us that somewhere around 20% (averaged) of secondary aged students have smoked dope in the last 12 months, doesn't mean they're smoking it every day... If we look at the demographics, Edmonton's total school population (Primary and secondary) = 83,000 students (stats from Edmonton school boards). Let's say that they're evenly split which means there are 41,500 secondary age students and if 20% of those are smoking dope, this amounts to around 8300 students. So far, 5 arrests have been made,count them, 5, for supposedly smoking pot oil using e-cigs. This amounts to .06% of kids who are smoking dope are using e-cigs to do it, yet the cop is saying "it's every where, they're all doing it". Even if my stats are a little off and we quintuple the numbers to compensate for those who might not be getting caught, this still amounts to .3% of kids who smoke dope using e-cigs but it's "everywhere"??? I don't pretend to know where Edmonton's Police Department is getting its statistics from but there is sure as hell something very off about their comments... My numbers come from about 5 minutes of research and a little common sense, if we include all school aged children, my numbers decrease by 50%. I'd love to see them do a study into how many school aged kids are smoking crack or dropping exstasy and I'm willing to bet that there are a LOT more than 5-25 of them in Edmonton, EPD needs to get educated really soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricbumblebee View Post
    I see this as a good thing actually, because it means their reaaaally trying every possible angle they can to make ecigs look bad, and if this is all they have left in their arsenal..

    you just can't argue with the science behind ecigs (all positive and favourable for us, of course), so stuff like this will get shot down pretty quickly thanks to the power of the people! the internet and vapin' people that is

    well done, thanks everybody
    @electricbumblebee I would like to agree with you but history doesn't bear this out, if news media is allowed to continue producing such shiite everyone will be up in arms as we "must protect the children" from the scourge of e-cigs or pretty soon they will all be smoking dope using e-cigs. I sincerely hope you're right but my Spidey senses are tingling on this one, it won't be long before the various Governments succumb to the mass hysteria and act without educating themselves first. It's already happening in certain US cities, how long before it happens here?...

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    As far as kids using e-cigs for other substances, it's possible to modify an e-cig for that purpose and it's probably happening. There are better devices available for that other stuff, but some are very similar to e-cigs. Kids were smoking other substances before e-cigs were available, so I don't think e-cigs are the problem. FWIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsyeruncle View Post
    As far as kids using e-cigs for other substances, it's possible to modify an e-cig for that purpose and it's probably happening. There are better devices available for that other stuff, but some are very similar to e-cigs. Kids were smoking other substances before e-cigs were available, so I don't think e-cigs are the problem. FWIW




    I agree that it's possible that some kids are modifying e-cigs to smoke dope or are illicitly managing to buy devices like the mcig in your response, I just disagree with the hype from the cops that all the kids are doing it, rolling papers cost what, $2 for a pack? and someone can roll many joints with papers but there's no demand to ban those is there? Yes, kids have been smoking dope for decades, long before e-cigs were even thought of, so e-cigs are certainly not the problem, nor are they the "pandemic" that the cops, school board and the media are calling this...

 

 
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