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    Atomizer Help (Nautlius Mini)

    Hi, veen vaping 9 months and have bought several devices but as of this week using the iStick/eLeaf with a Nautilus Min---dont have time to build coils

    What exactly are we meant to do with the Nautilus Mini?
    But his I mean, how often are we meant to change it, buy a new one?
    I'm not referring to the coil as I know we need to change that anywhere from between 1-3 weeks which depends on the person, amount they vape, etc.

    I am told to clean it out if I change juice but aside from that, what am I supposed to do to keep it working as well as day one OR am I expected to replace it for a full new one every few months, etc?


    Secondly, if the Nautilus Mini costs me, roughly $35, then I notice you can buy a smaller box by Nautilus that is a stainless steel whole piece. In other words its to replace the glass tank part i believe.
    Am I expected to replace the tank with this $20 piece every so often and if so, how often please?



    Thanks In Advance

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    Generally they should last "indefinitely". Other than the coils there's not much that can break down on them. Plastic parts can carry flavours is about it, any other issues will be mechanical (o-rings, threads, broken glass, etc).

    Second question, short answer is no. Long answer is nnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo. The stainless tank is treated the same as glass, wash it out and it should be dandy.

    I've not used one for terribly long, but I'm positive there's people who use them on the reg who'll know 110%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xsmoker View Post
    But his I mean, how often are we meant to change it, buy a new one?
    I'm not referring to the coil as I know we need to change that anywhere from between 1-3 weeks which depends on the person, amount they vape, etc.

    I am told to clean it out if I change juice but aside from that, what am I supposed to do to keep it working as well as day one OR am I expected to replace it for a full new one every few months, etc?
    No, you don't need to replace it every few months, even my protank which I got last march runs just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsmoker View Post
    Secondly, if the Nautilus Mini costs me, roughly $35, then I notice you can buy a smaller box by Nautilus that is a stainless steel whole piece. In other words its to replace the glass tank part i believe.
    Am I expected to replace the tank with this $20 piece every so often and if so, how often please?
    You only replace parts as needed. You don't need to swap out the glass until it breaks.
    as Xsmoker mentioned, only parts that will need to be replaced are from wear/tear -- O-rings & seals & glass.

    The only time I can anticipate you'd need to actually replace the Nautilus is if you were to strip the threads, but even that might be salvageable if you don't ruin them.

    Yeah, wash your Nautilus often just to keep it clean & gunk free for an overall better Vape experience.

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    LET ME PREFACE THIS POST AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTH BUT TRYING TO GIVE ALL INFO UP FRONT SO i DONT HAVE TO ANSWER MANY QUESTIONS ( TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU, DESPITE LONG POST )

    Thanks for all of your help but let me explain my problem and see if theres more to it taking into account answers above me in this post…………….


    * 2 of us, former hard core smokers for decades. Nothing worked but Vaping. Quit or or about April 2014.
    Over last 9 months we have purchased, a starter kit of 2 batteries, 2-iTaste MVP (still working), 2-iTaste VV (one works) and last week 2 brand new eLeaf/iTaste with 2 brand new Nautilus Mini tanks.

    Starting Sept/October/November became increasingly unsatisfied. Always felt clogged up, sucking on air, or half air. Just frustrated.
    Was changing coils about every 3 weeks I believe.
    Voltage was correct.
    Would change coil on correct voltage and great for 2/3 days, then clogging started to happen, and likely we increased voltage and burned out coils but got to a point where coils were changed every 2 days. Insane.
    Finally had time to get pissed off at money spent, last week and tried one last time with purchase of 2 iLeafs and Nautilus tanks.

    Want to make sure this time, we don’t encounter the same problems.

    Asked at Vape Store and online and although we have received some help, no one yet has been able to pin point why they were getting so clogged up to begin with, which then started cycle of changing coil and burning them out, and repeating it over and over.
    We discovered we had never cleaned out our gear yet many said, aside from changing flavours, that really isn’t an issue so doubt that was it.
    We use same flavour over and over, Captain Crunch and if/when we do change, to another very sweet one.
    I get the impression very few people really do clean their gear, despite claiming to do so + if true, than thats not the reason for our problems I suspect


    We have about 8 Nautilus tanks here, plus 2 new ones so about 10 in total for 2 people over 9 months. Admittedly, 4 are old style with cotton wicking inside glass part and once done, put in a box/drawer and never used again.
    Will throw out once u say to do so. Not sure if they have parts we might need later on???

    Please don’t suggest I make new coils, drip, for an answer
    I don’t have time to make coils, drip, etc. Im very busy and need convenience so for me now this is presently the best method but need to perfect it. Need to discover what Im doing wrong.



    So, question 1) Why are we feeling the need to change these so often? Whats causing the clogging sensation that makes me want to smoke out of frustration when it happens?
    ( when it works perfectly like new ones, NO need/desire to smoke)


    2) Should I resign myself to be buying a new one every 6 weeks? A full Nautilus Mini Tank for roughly $35-$45? Not rich, hate to throw away money if not necessary


    3) IF clogged, must I buy whole new Nautilus Mini for $35-$40 OR would little $20 stainless steel tank fix it? You say its in place of glass so I assume not, that it won’t fix my problem. Is there any other part inside Nautilus Mini Tank I can replace to make it 100% new again short of buying new?

    4) I had same problems with Kangor $15 tanks I put on top of iTaste VV? Great when brand new—some time later I wanted to throw them through my window out of frustration

    5) It feels as if we are the only 2 with this complaint. I have to believe others have the same problem but so far, no ones telling me if so and I feel as if it is just us looking for answers…….. not sure if this is downside no one wishes to admit to and scare off potential new customers
    IF IT IS A DOWNSIDE, Id rather be told straight out so I can then accept that I must buy new tanks every 2 months, and get on with it……but if not the answer, I need to find out what is…….


    Can anyone accept this challenge and help me figure out what the problems might be? I want to continue Vaping, as long as I can continue to enjoy doing so.

    Thanx!
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    Hi!
    There seems to be a misunderstanding on what you bits need to replace. Let me start at the beginning....

    You have a tank that holds juice
    You have a coil assembly in that tank that does all the heavy lifting.

    The coil assembly will probably need to be replaced every week or so.

    This is pretty much true of all tank systems.

    You need to clean the tank, but replace only the coil

    You need to find a new vape shop. It would seem that whoever's working there that was "helping" you is worse than useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsmoker View Post
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    So, question 1) Why are we feeling the need to change these so often? Whats causing the clogging sensation that makes me want to smoke out of frustration when it happens?
    ( when it works perfectly like new ones, NO need/desire to smoke)
    Probably related to your liquids. Thicker, sweeter juices tend to shorten the life of my coils - in my experience, anyway. If you're enjoying that liquid and it's keeping you off the ciggies, it's a small price to pay, imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsmoker View Post
    2) Should I resign myself to be buying a new one every 6 weeks? A full Nautilus Mini Tank for roughly $35-$45? Not rich, hate to throw away money if not necessary

    3) IF clogged, must I buy whole new Nautilus Mini for $35-$40 OR would little $20 stainless steel tank fix it? You say its in place of glass so I assume not, that it won’t fix my problem. Is there any other part inside Nautilus Mini Tank I can replace to make it 100% new again short of buying new?
    You should only need a couple of tanks, but lot's of coils - $15-$18 for a pack of 5. Expect to change these anywhere between 5-10 days depending on juice and use. I keep a 5-pack in my pocket, because when the flavour falls off, that coil is dead to me. =)

    The SS replacement tank is simply a sturdier tank that can probably survive a drop better than the unprotected glass. And some folks like their kit to be shiny instead of see-through. Strictly an issue of aesthetics, to be honest; like putting up blinds instead of curtains.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xsmoker View Post
    5) It feels as if we are the only 2 with this complaint. I have to believe others have the same problem but so far, no ones telling me if so and I feel as if it is just us looking for answers…….. not sure if this is downside no one wishes to admit to and scare off potential new customers
    IF IT IS A DOWNSIDE, Id rather be told straight out so I can then accept that I must buy new tanks every 2 months, and get on with it……but if not the answer, I need to find out what is…….

    Thanx!
    Folks seem to be finding (if I may generalize here) that the vertical coils in the nauti and nauti-mini have a shorter life span that the older bottom dual-coils and they can't be cleaned/dry-burned the same way as successfully. Having said that, they also seem to provide much better flavour. $5/week is still a hell of a lot better than my $13/day smoke habit.
    Your complaint is a bit unique in that some asshat convinced you that you need to replace the whole friggin' tank instead of the coils.

    Grab one of your tanks, put in a fresh coil, set your mvl or vv3 to about 8.5 watts (give or take a watt) and enjoy a nice sweet vape.

    Hope this helps some.

    cheers,
    c.

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    Firstly, let me preface with this. When you buy a tank, the only time you should have to buy a new tank is when you break the old one. The whole point of tank systems with replaceable coils is that you replace the coil when you need to, and keep the tank. Compared to the cost of the tank, the coil is relatively much cheaper. Eg. $40 tank, $2 coil.

    The same goes with a battery. The only reason you should ever really need to buy a new battery is when the old one breaks, or it has reached it's charge cycle limit and no longer holds a full charge for very long.

    (Of course, people buy new batteries to get new features too: greater capacity, VV/VW capabilities etc. For the sake of simplicity and to try and get a point across, once you make your initial tank+battery purchase, you should not have to make that purchase again until tank or battery breaks. Buying everything new after a couple of days because your vape experience has changed is just throwing money away.)

    With tanks with replaceable coils you should typically be looking at changing your coils every 1 - 4 weeks. Why such a variance? Many factors to account for, including how much you vape in a day, PG/VG ratio of juice, type of juice (ingredients, especially sugary flavours) etc. Having to change every couple of days means you're doing something wrong, or you vape _a lot_.

    1) Typical culprits can be high VG juice, sweet juice, your voltage/wattage is too high, your voltage/wattage is too low.

    2) No. Just no.

    3) Neither. If it really is clogged, it's time to learn how to clean your tank. The simplest and fastest method, and really all that should be required is take it apart and run it under hot water. Then let it air dry, and reassemble. The only part you should be replacing is the replaceable coil.

    4) Different tank, same issues, likely same underlying reasons.

    5) Not just you. It's just a matter of identifying what is causing the issue, and making the changes necessary to either prevent it from recurring, or understanding that it is par for the course and something you will need to manage going forward (eg. cleaning your tanks at an interval that will keep things from 'clogging up', changing your coils after an appropriate amount of time).

    Some things that may be useful to know:

    - What resistance are the coils you are currently using? This is always measured in ohms, and should be printed on the side of the coil. Eg. 1.6 ohms. This is important for you to know as most coils come in a variety of resistances, and when you need to buy more, you need to be able to specify what resistance you would like.
    - What voltage or wattage are you running your batteries at? Please identify whether it is voltage or wattage when you answer.
    - What is the PG/VG ratio of your juice?
    - What is the nicotine level?
    - How much do you vape in a day?

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    You should use BVC coils in your Nautilus. They vape better and last much longer then the BDC coil's.

    What do you mean by clogging? Is your tank flooding? Are you getting gurgling? Dry hits?

    If flooding have you tried opening up the airflow? If dry hits have you tried closing the airflow? Depending on the thickness of your juice how you set your airflow could cause these issues.

    Clean the tank and base under hot water.

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    Next time, ONE question I shall ask at a time for a shorter thread



    Thank you very much for ALL of your help.
    You guys have answered my questions, each one perfectly.
    I have asked elsewhere and got answers to questions i never asked but not to the ones I did ask.

    Let me state that I don't hold the store responsible where i bought my gear from. I am fully to blame. I should have taken out the time to have researched it all but I am just so busy, although I don't have time, I should have made some.
    I am trying to correct that now.
    The store i have used has been very good to me.
    Sure, maybe they might have asked me why was buying so many and perhaps lost money in doing so but they are a business after all and here to make money, not lose it.
    I really don't harbour any ill feeling towards them. Again strictly my own fault!
    The number of batteries is also partly my fault for wanting whats new. Sure many can relate
    But I don’t mind having a couple kicking around.
    I do mind all the unnecessary tank purchases but again, my fault.

    That said?
    I have read through here and believe I now know exactly what the problem is and I took to heart what I was told on several occasions, that being, that i was to change the filters about every 3-4 weeks by one guy and only the other day mentioning this problem, 2-3 weeks.
    Some of you who are very busy will know that 3 weeks can shoot by in a blink so its always possible i might even have gone longer.
    The problem was that I was just to busy to both notice what was happening and to take the time out to give it any thought, until I started to lose my patience with it once it started to dawn on me how much I was spending, changing two of them every 2 days, but again, thats no ones fault but my own.

    First, Bogmonster
    There seems to be a misunderstanding on what you bits need to replace. Let me start at the beginning....
    Thank you! Brilliant! Cant think of a better way than that to answer someone. Go back and start at the beginning. In doing so, I realized you are 100% right in more ways than one. Yes, I obviously need to change them weekly and will do so. For store owners, I would suggest it might be better in future to warn people that they may need changing that often. But i assume rather than lose a customer thinking that if you tell them that you may scare them, I think people like myself will have a better experience if we are given realistic data as to how often we need to do these things. I could have saved myself a lot of frustration but since I thought i was changing them enough, I was looking at every possible reason than that for the answer and wasted both time and money.

    Thank you for everything you wrote. I will be taking your advice clearly now. As I will others that said the same.

    As it turns out, after I read that, my husbands brand new gear began to feel all clogged again and after just spending more money and having that happen today after only using it 8 days, had I not already started this thread and received the answers that I did, I think he would have thrown it all out the window and said ENOUGH.
    But he washed it as directed here and changed the coil and its fine again. Otherwise, earlier it would have just continued to go downhill and become frustrating.
    For those that might think, well DUH, why wouldn't you have thought of that on your own?
    Well the only excuse i can offer is that we are so busy dealing with other areas of life that are stressful that we just didn't have the time to give it any thought. We were simply reacting to the frustration.


    You should only need a couple of tanks, but lot's of coils - $15-$18 for a pack of 5. Expect to change these anywhere between 5-10 days depending on juice and use. I keep a 5-pack in my pocket, because when the flavour falls off, that coil is dead to me. =)
    are you buying them online for that price?
    The store I am buying them from, I believe charges $4-$5 a coil
    I have seen elsewhere someone mention buying them from FASTTECH but if I am only going to save a couple of dollars for it to take 30 days, I will buy here.
    I think i was told I wold get them there for $2 each but IF you are using the same ones and getting a pack of 5 for $15-$18, Id love to know where in Toronto I could get them for that price?
    Yes, I can understand carrying the package, for sure. I would do so in my purse.

    Fanboy

    - What resistance are the coils you are currently using? This is always measured in ohms, and should be printed on the side of the coil. Eg. 1.6 ohms. This is important for you to know as most coils come in a variety of resistances, and when you need to buy more, you need to be able to specify what resistance you would like.
    - What voltage or wattage are you running your batteries at? Please identify whether it is voltage or wattage when you answer.
    - What is the PG/VG ratio of your juice?
    - What is the nicotine level?
    - How much do you vape in a day?
    *** Resistance of coils, thats the first time I have heard that but they seem to be all the same as the ones that actually come with the Nautilus Mini Tank boxes, 1.8
    I am guessing where I buy them only has that strength??!!
    But good to know now for future purposes if i buy online or, well, anywhere for that matter.

    Wonders if that means I should only stick with 1.8? If so, why and if not, why as well if you don’t mind my asking? Will a higher number be more satisfactory for example? OR must you stick to one number only?

    *** I went though all the voltage with my batteries at the store the other day for the first time, as I was trying to figure out what I was doing and I was given the figures and they were more or less correct.
    For example, the iStick/eLeaf I was told to keep at a wattage of 10 but certainly no more than 11 watts but I keep it at about 9.3 - 9.8 and find it fine there.

    *** Not positive but believe it to be a 30/70 blend with 12mg of nicotine
    I have been using the original EZ-Vape juice and still have a few bottles left. It has changed. I don’t know what the new mix is but its definitely darker and heavier looking than the one I am using and I have a few bottles of it but yet to dig in to them.
    I only believe them to be a 30/70 as I watched a video earlier of someone rating them and he said they were all 30/70 and that was before they changed to the second ones I have, the heavier darker brand that they have just exchanged in place of the other, first ones I have of theirs. I haven’t any idea what that all means and will delve into that next in a few days. The one I am using is a medium honey colour.

    *** Finishing up 1 bottle left of 18mg and 1 of 12mg and then I shall try 6mg which my husband is already down to.

    *** A lot. I work at home so I am not confined by any areas I cant vape in. I generally have it in front of me and pick it up every 5-20 mins for a hit or two. The husband is a fiend. He even takes his to sleep. Wherever he falls asleep there is one in his hand, like most men hold onto the TV clicker with all their might, he’s got his gear.. (the TV clicker is in the other hand) LOL Im not that bad. I plug mine in at nighttime or just turn it off.
    Basically I fill the tank up 3/4 and replace it once daily


    I believe now that I need to change this coil every 7-9 days. Ive now had this one going 7 days as of today and still feels fine. But we just changed the other one and I can tell when I compare that although mine is still great, its not AS great as the one we just changed so, IF i am right, it might last a couple more days. It still feels fine, For now but I can feel some degradation now.

    From the beginning of the thread until now, I believe it is what you all first said that I was not changing the coils enough for i had been told to change them every 3-4 weeks.
    I just wish I had been given a more realistic time period for changing them for had I, I would have suspected the coils immediately but never did for I thought they were good for the month.


    So IF you all agree that it WAS the coils, and likely combined with not cleaning them, and that i need to change them likely between 7-10 days or so, then I think all I need to do at this point is find out the best place pricewise to buy them in the downtown central or midtown core of Toronto. Otherwise it will be Fastech I assume??!!

    BCameron

    You should use BVC coils in your Nautilus. They vape better and last much longer then the BDC coil’s.
    BVC Atomizer is what comes in the Nautilus box I have and the replacement coils would be the same. They look exactly the same. After seeing your comment, a google search suggested that the earlier Nautilus tank came with BDC coils, correct?
    So I take it that I am using the right ones but a great point to know as I would not have known there was a difference.
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    *Yep, depending on use you'll get 1-3 weeks out of em, my wife cooks through coils in under 1 week, mileage varies. Mom lasts 2-3 weeks before changing. More or less, when you aren't satisfied any more and a new coil brings it back, that's about your time frame. The juice your using will change that, and wattage/voltage, etc. It's more a "feel", and I agree, shops SHOULD be telling you a range of times, minimum/maximum.

    I'm not from them parts being west coast, but:

    Replacement Coils
    *snip, not nautilus at second link that was here*

    As I said, no clue how close they are to you, but under 15$ a 5-pack, I'm sure there's more.
    Here's a list of Canadian vendors by province and if they have B&Ms:
    vendor_list - Canadian_ecigarette
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    Just joined and so glad I did. This post has answered some very basic questions I had. I'm at about 2 months now and the last couple weeks I've been experiencing similar issues. Thanks for clearing it up. I can blame the shop I bought from as I was the salesman. We've recently started to carry e gigs and supplies but know very little about them. I'm doing research like mad and passing it on to customers. I'll be telling them about this forum starting tomorrow.

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